I agreed with Tony to talk to them both after I got off the phone with him. So actually, the Stalefish had happened early on in his time at camp. Still, he was pretty sure that Tony had been trying them with him at Bourges. But he would leave his bags and everything and just be gone to Italy for a week.”. But he still added, “It seems very likely that he would have figured it out at the same time if not before me. Mark was polite and jovial, but immediately set out to make his case. At that point the grab of the air was almost incidental. Lucas Puig spends some quality time at home in Biarritz, Fr ... Chile's Stavros Razis is all about expressing himself through skateboarding, ... Madars travels to Osaka, Japan, to meet the Osaka Daggers skate crew. And I thought, ‘Wow, you could just… if he just turned his hand upward—he could grab that.’ So then on that tour, or at that skate camp (Bourges 87)—I did it.”, Mark also had a vivid memory of Tony Hawk being there at that time and having trouble grabbing it. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window). I asked Skin (our former Editor-in-Chief and a pretty seasoned skate historian) what his general understanding was of the stalefish’s invention. After Lance, I texted Martin’s photo over to Tony. Joe Johnson was there. Copyright © A360 Media LLC 2020. Now that you know what a stalefish is and where it comes from, you’re ready to do one. I asked if he remembered putting the photo of Mark’s tweaked version in his “Beyond” column. TWS Photo Annual 1986. How was this possible? Like me, the official story Skin had heard through the years was that Tony Hawk had done them first at the Swedish Eurocana Summer Camp in 1985 (the same summer he invented the 720) and the term “stale fish” had come from the stale herring served at the camp lunches. Approach the lip like you’re doing a normal frontside air. Suffice to say I am a huge fan. 4. Follow @lancemountain on Instagram. Mark might still have done one before Tony—although all accounts now point to Tony being the first, while Gonz clearly took Tony’s creation to a completely new level on vert and on street. Like Lance, he seemed somewhat sure it wasn’t the case. Adding to the mystery, the Gonz photo had run in Tony Hawk’s own TWS column at the time called “Beyond”—a column dedicated to NBD moves and progression. Grant confirmed that the Gonz “Beyond” photo was from summer of ’87. Mark was still pretty convinced that wasn’t possible. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. “Tony was having a hard time getting his thumb on the top part of it. WARNING: LONG READ! I knew it wouldn’t be popular among the skaters. Airwalk ad, TWS Oct. 1989. A Stalefish is a heel-side grab with your back hand reaching around your back leg, meaning it is not only awkward to reach, but necessitates that you grab quite late in your air. Like a lot of other tricks, Tony Hawk invented the stalefish back in 1985. I asked him if he had any recollection of talking with Mark (Gonz) about the trick there. Unless you’re going over a hip or something it didn’t make sense. Subscribe to our free newsletter and stay up-to-date with the latest from. Gonz’s “New Art” Vision ad with early front 180 Stales on street. This wasn’t TMZ style beef seeking or trolling for click bait. Seven months from the original interviews, we have just published Martin Willners photo—according to Martin the first time it has ever been printed—in our May 2016 issue and this 4000-word essay is ready to upload on the site. I hung up with Tony and called Grant Brittain. My first photo of a Stale besides Tony’s backside Stales in 1985 is from 1987 and then it is frontside Stales.”. Exhibit A: Gonz’s tweaked Stalefish (Brittain) from Bourges, France during the summer of 1987. It's always funny until someone gets hurt, and then it's just hilarious. By signing up you agree to our Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. If anything though, it was probably because I was trying to do it like him. “Like “She’s stale, she’s a ‘stale fish’.”, I could tell that Mark was absolutely telling the truth as far as he understood it. I set out to find out. And I said, ‘Well, if you can’t grab it, just palm the son of a bitch.’ Like how (Mike) Vallely does his backside airs. It had now been two months since I had originally hit up Mark. Had he realized it had never been done? I had written ‘Stale fish with many bones.’ And this guy. However when it came to the first photo of one, he was sure that the Grant Brittain photo of Gonz tweaking one at Bourges skate camp 1987 in France (TWS Dec. 1987) was the first stalefish photo he had seen. 1. By signing up you agree to our Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. However, it was … However when it came to Sweden ’85, he said he didn’t remember Tony doing it. I texted the photo to Lance and thanked him for connecting me with Martin. A new skate film featuring Elijah Berle and Gilbert Crockett, Subscribe to our free newsletter and stay up-to-date with the latest from. To my surprise Gonz got back to me almost immediately. “I do remember my time with Mark vividly in Paris too. If he did it before me. It’s on you. Hawk’s back Stale from the cover of the TWS Photo Annual 3, 1988 (Photo: Brittain).

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